Posted 05/20/17 at 01:24:02
@Rosie There may actually be a simpler answer regarding the introduction of the 'Kitty' character and Liu's reduced screen time. I'm not 100% certain, but in mid 2015 Liu welcomed her first child via gestational surrogate. So while she wasn't actually pregnant, I'm sure she would have needed some time off before and certainly after the arrival of the baby. Again, I'm not certain, but if memory serves I think 2015 (technically a bit earlier considering filming takes place long before air dates) was around the time the new character arrived on the show.
Posted 05/16/17 at 13:40:45
I'm so glad to hear this show has been renewed. I've been keeping track of the ratings via this website, and was afraid this would be the last season for Elementary. I like Miller's take on Holmes, and the mannerisms he gives the character.
It's my opinion, the dynamics between Holmes and Watson we saw in Season 1 won't be repeated, and at Liu's demand. If you remember, it was in Season 2 that Kitty's character first appeared, and I never really understood why she was brought in. There wasn't any story justification for her. And, in reality, the appearance of Kitty's character cut down, dramatically, Liu's screen time, and I always thought maybe she was the driving reason behind that: perhaps she intentionally cut down her character's screen time to protest either the romantic connection between her Watson and Miller's Holmes, which put her in a secondary star role over Miller's lead, or maybe it was a contract dispute. Liu may have only had a 1 year contract and she did a work slow down for better wages. Who knows?
I just know that the 2nd season was weird, with more time for the character Kitty, and less time for Liu. And, that wonderful romantic tension between Watson and Holmes in Season 1, never returned in Season 3. They even moved Watson/Liu out of the house for Season 3, finally settling on her coming back into the house and having some kind of "office" in the basement. It was an ill-fated attempt at giving Watson some kind of independence from Holmes/Miller, and I feel this was at Liu's behest. And, I believe this was what dropped the ratings....the schizophrenic Season 2 and the milquetoast Season 3.
Posted 05/16/17 at 07:57:35
Andrew wrote: I actually keep hoping this show gets back to its roots. Season 1 and 2 were so incredibly fun. The dynamics between Holmes and Watson were very humorous. Season 3 began to shift to a more serious nature
I could not have said it better! That is why I stopped watching at the end of S3. I "may" go back and watch, but with so many good shows on Netflix etc. not sure where I will find the time. Happy for the fans though!!
Posted 05/16/17 at 07:33:18
time to drop this show. it is really getting ridiculous. with sherlock being able to see a pimple on a fly a mile away is funny. used to watch it occasionally but it seems to be getting crazy.
Posted 05/15/17 at 22:18:09
@Steve - sounds like you are up-do-date watching Elementary yet you think it should have been cancelled. I am 13 episodes behind but still finding it ok to watch. Are the last 13 episodes where the deep dive takes place? I agree that a lot of the episodes are weak, but that has always been true, even though there is a decline. I don't really agree with your comment about Sherlock lacking his old subtle insights. It's purposeful that he doesn't solve the case in the first five minutes, his brilliance has to take an hour so the writers often have to slow him down for many crimes. Sometimes the filler looks too much like filler. Sometimes he's super Sherlock and determines what crime a seeming bystander has committed by observing him for only 15 seconds. They have been churning out the episodes.
Posted 05/15/17 at 01:49:29
Gotta say, this show should have been canceled. It long ago lost its sparkle. Holmes now is just a good detective, seldom do you see the subtle insights that made him a superior detective. I can understand, it's hard for writers to keep pulling rabbits out of the hat each week. The Holmes/Watson interaction has grown stale as well.
Posted 05/14/17 at 22:03:22
I am only 12 episodes behind (13 in a couple hours) and I am glad Elementary has been renewed because it's good, but it's far from my favorite. The episodes last season with John Noble were among the best and I hope they bring the father's operation back in before it's over. Last year, I think, I started using closed caption because for years I've been missing a large amount of Johnny Miller's dialogue because he mumbles extremely fast. I thought Lucy Liu was perfect for at least the first year and then her role had more and more developments that felt contrived. Kitty was little miss contrived. But what made matters worst was that I felt Lucy completely forgot how to act for a good while. Luckily, Lucy snapped out of her non-acting sleep-walk and became ok at it again. I love good looking women, which Lucy is, but that she models a brand new outfit for every scene in every episode is beyond ridiculous. And amazingly, Sherlock seems oblivious! Drab Jonny Miller, with the aid of close captioning, is good and carries the show. (If you don't like my observations, please don't call me Sherlock.)
Posted 05/14/17 at 20:39:08
I actually keep hoping this show gets back to its roots. Season 1 and 2 were so incredibly fun. The dynamics between Holmes and Watson were very humorous. Season 3 began to shift to a more serious nature and now the past two seasons have been procedural with a 'who-done-it' of the week. I actually am watching the latest episode right now and am only half tuning it because frankly, I find it rather boring compared to how it used to be. I really hope next season will return to more of the wittiness and the moriarty type of season long plot. I haven't given up hope yet on you Elemetary but I do know that many of your viewers have left because of the same reasons that I mentioned. But if next season is the same I probably will not watch it anymore. :(
Posted 05/14/17 at 19:37:40
Awesome!! Now if they would do something about the time slot. It's always preempted for football. I have my DVR set to record it with an 1.5 extra. Ridiculous.
Posted 05/14/17 at 19:20:06
Good news for Elementary. I have enjoyed watching the last almost complete 5 seasons. This show though needs to move to another night. Too much competition on Sunday night. It has hurt their ratings big time.